Sometimes, I feel that some stuff that gets discussed or written about producers or performers in our niche needs calling out. I usually ignore the trolls or sheer idiocy that I see on Forums.
However, in this case, this REALLY piqued my interest… I love how people seem to think they are “in the know” – especially based on events or people they may have ideas on from 10 years ago, or how the biz, parties, genuine friendships and goodwill that many producers and performers have for each other is portrayed… especially in the eyes of one absolutely deluded person… I’ll let you work out who that is.
If anyone here that is slandered wishes to reply, feel free to… and put the record straight. But I won’t hold my breath, as we all have far more important things to do. It is, however, an interesting insight into how those who like to download our content for free view us all… right? Anyway, to us who ARE in the know, enjoy this early Xmas present… get your popcorn ready and marvel at the spats from the more considerate and level headed folk in reply to the absolute, laughable drivel and delusional theories spouted by one fixated individual… and more such glaring inaccuracies! Sheer entertainment!!! LOL
The below thread is from a content sharing forum and started off rather innocently but quickly degenerates… as you’ll see. Have fun reading this!
What models are everywhere
Fly**g Circus
« November 23, 2019, 12:27:24 AM »
There are a few models that travel all over to different studios, and I would call them the hot models.
To me, Kiki Cali, Mackenzie Reed, Stevie Rose, Nuna Starks, and Casey Calvert come to mind. I don’t know how active AJR is now.
What do others think?
f*nb*n
« Reply #1: November 23, 2019, 07:26:13 AM »
Our thoughts about these spanking models are mostly: ‘They do it for the money!’
Over the years I have met and corresponded with quite a few models and found that the above is not entirely true.
There are many who do this for a combination of psychological factors, like exhibitionism, a need to be submitted, a longing for pain, sexual arousal and more…
Of course some are heavily on drugs and need the money for their next drug / shot, but that’s not typical for spanking models. Many people in our society are on drugs for a huge variety of reasons. It always fascinated me why some women like to be spanked and found answers by simply asking them. Girls like Rosaleen Young, Samantha Woodley, Amber Pixie Wells, Audrey Knight, Abigail Whitacker, Sarah Gregory, Star Chandler, Chelsea Pfeiffer, Clare Fonda and so on…All of them said they had that special longing to go over the knee and have their bottoms spanked. In many cases related to youth experiences. I asked if they needed sex straight after a spanking and most said they just needed the spanking and weren’t even thinking of sex. Most said spankings for a reason (even fake) felt best.
They said also that some spankers are better than others. The best are the ones who take time to know their spankees. A kind of understanding grows, reason for them to play more often with each other. In the scene they hear about spanking skills from certain spankers, become curious and arrange a spanking session with them. If that feels good they make more arrangement and so on. I believe that’s the reason we see the same girls over many different laps (make and female) for spanking sessions. Spankers want to spank girls with a strong spanking reputation and spankees like to feel the ‘punishments’ from well-known spankers. Most models play for two or three years, but many play much longer. To me proof that they surely have a need to spank or a need to get spanked. My three pennies worth… 🙂
Fly**g Circus
« Reply #2: November 23, 2019, 02:37:31 PM »
What youth experiences caused this?
L*ceygirl
« Reply #3: December 18, 2019, 06:43:21 PM »
So basically how it works is 100% of the models are in it for the money and some add in popularity as well therefore they do not care the least bit on who spanks them. It’s only a matter of who has the cash. This would explain why 90% of the guys doing the spanking are elderly people like that tubaman.
The issue is that it’s degrading but because 90% of the models are heavy drug users it allows them to ignore any morale obligation and travel as many places as possible. The producers will get them into the drugs as well because it helps them comply.
HOWEVER sometimes the rare case of escaping the circle of the pursuit of meth and crack is possible and they disappear or just screw around with a friend making videos.Sarah gregory, that kyle and practically everyone who has come near him…….. all meth or crack users. It shows on their face. Discoloration, odd facial expressions.Hell kyle is probably the worst. It seems his body transforms seasonally.So basically the drugs tell them to run around trying to make that money. Sorry but this is how the industry works. Women do not perform well unless they are drugged.
It always fascinated me why some women like to be spanked and found answers by simply asking them. Girls like Rosaleen Young, Samantha Woodley, Amber Pixie Wells, Audrey Knight, Abigail Whitacker, Sarah Gregory, Star Chandler, Chelsea Pfeiffer, Clare Fonda and so on…
Here, let me break it down for you. Since they are in it for the money they everything they say it a direct answer to what the producer feels the audience will want to hear from them. This is why vulnerable adorable ones will talk about their past with spanking and tuff attitude ones like knight will say “I never had any spankings growing up. I just like it now”.
Rosaleen = alcoholic
Samantha Woodley = Alcoholic
Amber Pixie = crack cocaine (low amounts)
Audrey knght (sic) = Money and popularity
Abigail Whitacker = Crack
Sarah Gregory = prescription medication such as sleeping pills and perks and DEFINATLY (sic) METH.
etc.
Pretty much all of them have drug faces…. which is pretty obvious…
AnnaSp*nkee
« Reply #4: December 19, 2019, 06:48:39 PM »
And I don’t understand how you can watch the same ass spanked for the hundredth or three hundredth times! Well, it’s not at all natural and not natural. That’s why I like studios where there are a lot of unprofessional women – one such spanking costs sincerity and emotions in the thousands of flaws of yours Kiki Mackenzie Stevie etc :/
Sp*nkr*t
«Reply #5: December 19, 2019, 08:25:01 PM »
Quote from: L*ceygirl on December 18, 2019, 06:43:21 PM
So basically how it works is 100% of the models are in it for the money and some add in popularity as well therefore they do not care the least bit on who spanks them. It’s only a matter of who has the cash. This would explain why 90% of the guys doing the spanking are elderly people like that tubaman.The issue is that it’s degrading but because 90% of the models are heavy drug users it allows them to ignore any morale obligation and travel as many places as possible. The producers will get them into the drugs as well because it helps them comply.
HOWEVER sometimes the rare case of escaping the circle of the pursuit of meth and crack is possible and they disappear or just screw around with a friend making videos.Sarah gregory, that kyle and practically everyone who has come near him…….. all meth or crack users. It shows on their face. Discoloration, odd facial expressions.
Hell kyle is probably the worst. It seems his body transforms seasonally.
So basically the drugs tell them to run around trying to make that money. Sorry but this is how the industry works. Women do not perform well unless they are drugged.
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It always fascinated me why some women like to be spanked and found answers by simply asking them. Girls like Rosaleen Young, Samantha Woodley, Amber Pixie Wells, Audrey Knight, Abigail Whitacker, Sarah Gregory, Star Chandler, Chelsea Pfeiffer, Clare Fonda and so on…
Here, let me break it down for you. Since they are in it for the money they everything they say it a direct answer to what the producer feels the audience will want to hear from them.
This is why vulnerable adorable ones will talk about their past with spanking and tuff attitude ones like knight will say “I never had any spankings growing up. I just like it now”.Rosaleen = alcoholic
Samantha Woodley = Alcoholic
Amber Pixie = crack cocaine (low amounts)
Audrey knght = Money and popularity
Abigail Whitacker = Crack
Sarah Gregory = prescription medication such as sleeping pills and perks and DEFINATLY METH.
etc.Pretty much all of them have drug faces…. which is pretty obvious…
Have you even met any of these women you are slandering?
I met Rosaleen a few times at public events where alcohol was readily available & I don’t think I saw her with a glass in her hand. She certainly wasn’t drunk. I also know some of the girls & producers that worked with her. I heard a few remarks about her being bossy & vain but never an alcoholic. Anyway she retired from the spanking scene about ten years ago.
I don’t know anything about the other – American – women you accuse but I suspect, neither do you. You’re just another troll.
Fly**g Circus
« Reply #6: December 20, 2019, 03:34:04 AM »
L*cey, how did you learn this?
f*nb*n
« Reply #7: December 20, 2019, 09:22:50 AM »
Hi L*ceygirl,
It’s rather disappointing that you label spanking models according to unproven prejudices. I met and corresponded with quite a few and have a different opinion
I give you a few examples:
Rosaleen finished a study in neurology and wrote a book in 2003 – Fantasies of a Young Submissive – about her feelings. A brilliant book that touches the subject masterfully. Translated in many languages, even Japanese…
Sarah Gregory finished college with a master in stage arts and is the key person in the many companies she runs together with her husband John Osborne.
Pandora Blake runs her own company as well and managed to fight the British Government (!) about censorship. Most important she WON the court case. Who dares to take it up against a Government and change the intended Law..? She had to stop her Company “Dreams of spanking” but runs it now again with the amended Law at her side. Making beautiful films
Amber Pixie Wells has a degree in Nutritional studies and a sincere longing for spanking like many other girls.
The list is endless, so I stop here. To me it is rather simplistic to judge all the girls though prejudice and NOT Knowing.
Felt I should say this.
L*ceygirl
« Reply #8: December 20, 2019, 10:36:09 PM »
I bet you think strippers like you too.
Quote from: Sp*nkr*t on December 19, 2019, 08:25:01 PM
Have you even met any of these women you are slandering?
I don’t know anything about the other – American – women you accuse but I suspect, neither do you. You’re just another troll.
I live in the largest free criminal enterprise city in Canada and probably the world. I spend all year dealing with Junky dealers. I know what their faces look like and I know what expressions and body movements they do. I can spot a methhead from a mile away, I can spot a cociane (sic) addict actor from watching about 20 seconds of their role.
This is PORN DUDE. that’s how the industry works. Don’t act all surprised. It works the same way in prostitution.
Sarah Gregory finished college with a master in stage arts and is the key person in the many companies she runs together with her husband John Osborne.
listen dude. $2 host a month and a pile of domains from name.com isn’t companies. It’s on her FACE dude. Also college is the 2nd best place to sell cocaine. She also uses pain killers for her recordings as well………. so much for being into spanking.
Pandora Blake runs her own company as well and managed to fight the British Government (!) about censorship. Most important she WON the court case. Who dares to take it up against a Government and change the intended Law..? She had to stop her Company “Dreams of spanking” but runs it now again with the amended Law at her side. Making beautiful films
Ok, a website isn’t a company again… I had 60 when I was 18yrs old. I didn’t follow anything about the govt but I never was a pandora fan.
Amber Pixie Wells has a degree in Nutritional studies and a sincere longing for spanking like many other girls.
I got an issue of SWANK and there’s an interview with a hot military chick and she says that she just loves to fuck and she’ll fuck fans and whoever. As long as they are of legal age and below 50. She says she loves to fuck even if it isn’t good just to give the dude a blast. She claimed that if you want to fuck you’ll most likely get fucked unless you act weird.
You believe that too probably?
Listen dude. Have you seen the out tasks (sic) from firm hand. It’s FUCKED. they are wacking (sic) them a few times then there is a cut because they are laughing then they say ok ready and they kick and cry then they yell I need a cut in 6 seconds, make a joke all laugh then get in position.
She can say what she wanted but that’s how it was.
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f*nb*n
« Reply #9: December 21, 2019, 06:06:16 AM »
Bitter and sarcastic. You must be very disappointed in life, L*ceygirl.
Yes, I do believe in the more positive things. In some cases I was present when scenes were filmed and luckily there is a lot of laughter indeed. Most people do not need drugs to laugh… Spanking productions are normally made in such a way that models can take it relatively easy. With breaks and all that is needed to make them feel comfortable. To me that’s the only way.When models posed for me, when I was drawings them, there was a lot of laughter too. It’s rather embarrassing as an adult to go over the knee and that makes them laugh. It creates an atmosphere of Fun, but an atmosphere of confidence and relaxation too. I never had a model that was ‘drugged’.
Yes, there surely are models that use drugs, but most do not, I believe. Sensible girls that simply enjoy spanking fun in their lives.
We all have different sexual feelings and to quite a few girls/women spanking is one of them. The release of Endorfines (sic) and Dopamine make it feel good. According to sexual researches (Shere Hite, Vance Packard and MacKenzie sexual surveys, among others) 8 – 20 percent of females like spanking in a huge range of varieties; from light slaps to sharp pain. And most men like to slap female buttocks, again in a huge variety of ways.
You may have been too long in circles of Junkies, so that it influences your mind-set.
I prefer to set my mind on the positive side of spanking and I am convinced many girls and women in the scene do it, because they want to. Aside from the money. It’s only normal they get paid for their performances. Some make big money out of this sector of the porn-industry, most do not.
t*lar
« Reply #10:December 21, 2019, 02:49:58 PM »
If only W*ltlover would share here his infinite wisdom with us too
piracysitexxx.com/topic=8261.msg398067
Sp*nkr*t
« Reply #11: December 21, 2019, 04:05:02 PM »
So, L*ceygirl, the answer to my question is no, you don’t know any of the women that you accuse, but have the extraordinary talent of being able to tell just by looking at a person’s face exactly what they’re addicted to. If you have such a low opinion of people appearing in spanking videos & those who watch them why are you on a site dedicated to sharing spanking videos? Maybe because you’re a troll.
L*ceygirl
« Reply #12: December 21, 2019, 07:53:02 PM »
Quote from: Sp*nkr*t on December 21, 2019, 04:05:02 PM
So, L*ceygirl, the answer to my question is no, you don’t know any of the women that you accuse, but have the extraordinary talent of being able to tell just by looking at a person’s face exactly what they’re addicted to. If you have such a low opinion of people appearing in spanking videos & those who watch them why are you on a site dedicated to sharing spanking videos? Maybe because you’re a troll.
No, it’s not a talent. It’s common sense. If you want to smoke fairy dust and fly high with all of the incredible stories of girls running around getting spanked by senior citizens and all of them saying they love it go fourth (sic).
Listen, if you ever went to any of those texas all state spanking parties you would learn real quick that it’s all a giant money grab. They run all of things were (sic) they have a classroom and you litterly (sic) watch them spank each other and when it’s over they are running around looking for privates to earn money and after that they are making their own clips in the hotels………. then they have these spank me for money shows.
It’s all just a persuit (sic) of wealth which is fine until people say crap like “Oh, they are so into it. it’s not about the money or drugs”.
Look, Kyles weight has gone up in the summer and down in the winter(meth). his face goes from clear to legions(meth). They are users.
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Fly**g Circus
« Reply #13: December 22, 2019, 03:23:44 PM »
No, it’s not a talent. It’s common sense. If you want to smoke fairy dust and fly high with all of the incredible stories of girls running around getting spanked by senior citizens and all of them saying they love it go fourth.
Listen, if you ever went to any of those texas all state spanking parties you would learn real quick that it’s all a giant money grab. They run all of things were they have a classroom and you litterly watch them spank each other and when it’s over they are running around looking for privates to earn money and after that they are making their own clips in the hotels………. then they have these spank me for money shows.
It’s all just a persuit of wealth which is fine until people say crap like “Oh, they are so into it. it’s not about the money or drugs”.Look, Kyles weight has gone up in the summer and down in the winter(meth). his face goes from clear to legions(meth). They are users.
Couldn’t it be both? They are spankos, and figure a way to make money off it.
L*ceygirl
« Reply #14: December 22, 2019, 06:24:52 PM »
Quote from: Fly**g Circus on December 22, 2019, 03:23:44 PM
Couldn’t it be both? They are spankos, and figure a way to make money off it.
A lot of actors, athletes, and porn stars say use the line “I’m doing what I love but why not make money too” but the reality of it is if you earn profit from something then that’s all that counts.
There is no way that all of these spanking actresses all woke up one day and said “HEY, i love spanking so I want to be spanked by old senior citizens in front of 4 cameras and a crowd. Wow, I make money from it as well”.
Basically what happens is they see that they earned $500 in one day so they run around trying to get “anyone” else to pay them for it………… usual old men as you may have noticed from the videos.
And this is exactly what is happening.
There are MORE old senior men spanking these females than NOT. That’s ridiculous. The % of elderly fetish in the porn empire is probably less than 1%. The fact that not one or some but ALL of these women are getting in line to be spanked by these tubamans proves its (sic) completely about money.
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d*vid557
« Reply #15: December 22, 2019, 06:41:53 PM »
So what explains all of the F/F spanking porn?
Sp*nkr*t
« Reply #16: December 22, 2019, 06:56:35 PM »
Quote: Listen, if you ever went to any of those texas all state spanking parties you would learn real quick that it’s all a giant money grab. They run all of things were they have a classroom and you litterly watch them spank each other and when it’s over they are running around looking for privates to earn money and after that they are making their own clips in the hotels………. then they have these spank me for money shows.It’s all just a persuit of wealth which is fine until people say crap like “Oh, they are so into it. it’s not about the money or drugs”.
What were you doing at these Texas All State Spanking Parties? Were you selling your ass and have now got too old, bitter & saggy to be able to do that any more? Or maybe you’re really a guy & were there to buy. You can be anything you like on the web.
L*ceygirl
« Reply #17: December 22, 2019, 10:51:43 PM »
Quote from: d*vid557 on December 22, 2019, 06:41:53 PM
So what explains all of the F/F spanking porn?
uhh, cause there are mass amounts of women.
Quote from: Sp*nkr*t on December 22, 2019, 06:56:35 PM
What were you doing at these Texas All State Spanking Parties? Were you selling your ass and have now got too old, bitter & saggy to be able to do that any more? Or maybe you’re really a guy & were there to buy. You can be anything you like on the web.
Your emotions have been compromised and you are unable to realistically evaluate the porn industry and how it works.
I’m sorry you don’t believe it but the spanking models are not exceptional people. They have absolutely no morale regard or show no interest in spanking.
99% of them are lesbians, 99% of them are willing to do any spanking positions, 99% of them are switches, 99% of them done porn, 99% of them have done other fetishes for video, 99% of them are willing to spank or be spanked by total strangers, 99% of them are competitive.
Hell the sarah gregory group were sharing costumes to save money so they can run 20 spanking videos in one day.
It’s more to do with money than spanking.
Sorry but get used to it. This is the way the world works.
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Yikes – LOL … right? That’s all for now!
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& predictably they link to this, naturally… and L*ceygirl goes off at the deep end! HAW HAW HAW!
More below… ta-daaaah!
L*ceygirl
« Reply #21: December 26, 2019, 05:31:27 PM »
It’s stupid.
haha, in the article the mutt wrote: “Glaring inaccuracies” and “degenerate”.
MUAHAAHAHAHA.
Yeah, here’s one for the blogger.
1. When humans have interests(aquarium fish, sex, spanking, mechanics, etc) they still consider taste, Morales, and standards when enrolling in that interest.
Spanking models have NONE of those at all. The entire spanking industry is OLD DUDES. WOMEN, by statistics prefer grandfather dudes at around 1/3000. Most spanking models are switches……. and they do porn…… and they do other stuff…… and they are bisexual….. and…… on and on. Basically they will do anything for money within reason. There is no fame with spanking models. You can purchase pretty much anyone of them. When you can purchase anyone you want in an industry.
really……………… You people are fucked.
2. -Here’s how the industry works.
In the REGULAR model industry bigshots nap a hot young girl and drive her around to clubs and party with her and feed her tons of alchohol (sic). If they can hang then they live in the “borrowed” riches until and younger one shows up and they ditch her in the gutter.
-Hard users and drugs control the porn industry. hell, 50% of them are dealers on the side. The women LOOK like users. Like every 2nd one. There are a few who are not such as chicks like lexi belle but its rare.
3. In the spanking industry there are tons of young girls road-tripping and modeling with OLD DINOSAURS. Ton as in the majority of them. Most have MARKS all over their face. HUMANS do not generally have marks all over their face but the moment you turn on Firm hand ALL of them are covered with it. Some of them look extremely unhealthy.
It’s called meth, heroine (sic), crack, and most of them are jacked on it.
Just for fun I thought I’d add some junky faces.
AND not to mention the ENTIRE CAST OF Wellspankings.
Oh I have to post this girl again. It’s brutally noticable (sic) in every video.
L*ceygirl
« Reply #23: December 26, 2019, 05:46:09 PM »
In reply to T*lar’s earlier goading:
You don’t have to post some elaborate investigation that in the past I said what I’m saying now. I agree I hate you and that wolfy fuckhead and everyone knows I have little to no respect for people who are not true to their nature.
I have a lot of respect for the models whom (sic) are honest. There is nothing wrong with making money.
I know you and your gay friends don’t like me and being popular was never a priority of mine.
Fl***ng Circus
« Reply #24:December 26, 2019, 11:48:23 PM »
L*ceygirl,
What is your response to this?
I think that perhaps they start off as spankos, and then realize they can make money off it, and put up with being spanked by some fat old man. They don’t enjoy it, but can tolerate it. Also, I am sure there are all different motivations for being in the industry.
Well you just have to admire those drug addled spanking models. They keep turning up to the right place at the right time and follow directions despite being off their heads. Anyone with commonsense can see its a nonsense argument. No insider knowledge needed.
This is kind of incendiary… and unintentionally hilarious, although I imagine Sarah disagrees with the latter rather strenuously. It reminds me of the high school teacher I used to know who insisted, just insisted, that educating teens about evolution was the trauma behind all mental illnesses. Equally convinced, equally nutty. Sadly one cannot prosecute anonymous correspondents; my old colleague ended up being kicked out of the profession because he wouldn’t shut up about his bizarre views. Damaging to children, they said, ironically.
Hilarious. But there was no need for you to cast aspersions on everyone who downloads content for free.
I think the website and production businesses that John and Sarah run ARE an indication of their intellect and work ethic. If you think what they do is easy, just go to the Spanking Tube and see the videos average people post. There is no contest in terms of clarity, the sound and the multiple angles. I think claiming all these people are on drugs is disgusting and pure speculation. The models I see on SGS sites don’t look unhealthy to me, with the exception of maybe a few. I appreciate the work that goes into providing us with an outlet for our fetish and especially a company which obviously tries to produce quality work. I think slandering these people with no proof other than their faces is low.